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Postby bongo » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:33 am

i htink it was alessandro cortini who called the octatrack the most important new instrument in 30 years or something (?)

id argue the digitakt is more important bc of the price point and the workflow. its my favorite piece of gear i own handily, its just an ideabox
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Postby acidity regulator » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:04 pm

Yea I've heard octatrack workflow stoinks. Gonna have a look at more digitakt vids but I guess this would make sense
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Postby fresh salad » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:07 pm

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fresh salad wrote:@ brothertony, naw it's but a re-issue. (with MIDI? I'll take it!)


way to go imo. had a friend with an original and you cannot keep the oscillators in tune for more than 5 minutes. they shift so violently, which i guess is super common with the old ones.

Yeah it stays in tune fairly well.. ironic that the newest piece of gear I own is a repro of basically the oldest synth ever
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Postby acidity regulator » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:16 pm

acidity regulator wrote:Yea I've heard octatrack workflow stoinks. Gonna have a look at more digitakt vids but I guess this would make sense

Although I guess Octatrack could as well work as an instant sampling machine for the Lyra so I can capture a sound and stack it with more Lyra. That would be sick as hell
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Postby baleen » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:43 pm

Ankh wrote:octatrack is a massive pain in the ass


once I was at a friends house and he had like just bought an octa. I was like, cool, I can check this out it seems so sick. so impossible to just dip in fuck around.
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Postby boonie » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:33 pm

CoolRanch wrote:i totally disagree. i don't own anything modular but this and the intellijel plonk sound very hot



I'm not saying it can't sound good but I still reckon if you're not modular, as a drum machine, a single voice, module without midi and a single 8 step sequencer is gonna be pretty limited. And a lot of that video is blippity blop rather than drum rhythms.
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Postby boonie » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:35 pm

So is the Digitakt workflow really that much different and easier than the normal Elektron workflow? I bought a monomachine once and that thing was a chore.
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Postby bongo » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:36 pm

cant speak to any other elektron but i can take my phone and line into the digitakt and grab things off youtube/voice memo recordings and have the foundation for something interesting/workable in minutes

also easily lose hours in it
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Postby Milquetoaster Strudels » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:42 pm

boonie wrote:
CoolRanch wrote:i totally disagree. i don't own anything modular but this and the intellijel plonk sound very hot



I'm not saying it can't sound good but I still reckon if you're not modular, as a drum machine, a single voice, module without midi and a single 8 step sequencer is gonna be pretty limited. And a lot of that video is blippity blop rather than drum rhythms.

I really don't see the point of a drum machine without MIDI capability in 2018
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Postby bongo » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:44 pm

intellijel plonk is the scrumpsynth IG modularbros module of choice these days
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Postby bongo » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:45 pm

make sure your breville gooseneck is dialed in to a firm 185° if youre considering buying
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Postby bongo » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:45 pm

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Postby bro tones » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:22 pm

that's a good ass toop
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Postby acidity regulator » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:24 pm

i checked youtube vids for octatrack and digitakt and yeah the latter had a workflow optimized for more instant playability and i feel like octatrack would frustrate me a lot
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Postby baleen » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:26 pm

Milquetoaster Strudels wrote:
boonie wrote:
CoolRanch wrote:i totally disagree. i don't own anything modular but this and the intellijel plonk sound very hot



I'm not saying it can't sound good but I still reckon if you're not modular, as a drum machine, a single voice, module without midi and a single 8 step sequencer is gonna be pretty limited. And a lot of that video is blippity blop rather than drum rhythms.

I really don't see the point of a drum machine without MIDI capability in 2018


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Postby boonie » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:30 pm

bongo wrote:cant speak to any other elektron but i can take my phone and line into the digitakt and grab things off youtube/voice memo recordings and have the foundation for something interesting/workable in minutes

also easily lose hours in it


The monomachine felt like obtuse menu diving, hold this button and press that button, for pretty much everything. Digitakt looks interesting but I'm still kinda wary of Elektron.
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Postby boonie » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:31 pm

I'm also lazy and dumb and just bounce off menu diving in general.
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Postby acidity regulator » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:52 am

Dumb question but can digitakt / octatrack:

-trigger midi instruments & play sample/drum tracks at the same time
-make my music good/gooder
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Postby acidity regulator » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:15 am

Also thinking about the Squarp Pyramid cuz it can sequence via CV as well, but then again I've gone far from my original idea of a drum machine need. However I kinda need a workflow tool to tie my shit together.
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Postby Milquetoaster Strudels » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:35 am

acidity regulator wrote:Dumb question but can digitakt / octatrack:

-trigger midi instruments & play sample/drum tracks at the same time
-make my music good/gooder
?!?

Digitakt can trigger up to 8 separate instruments along with its internal sampler. It has a 64-step sequencer. If sick beats live within your heart, the Digitakt will find them.


So, I ended up returning the On Stage stand for the Proline and it definitely seems like a significantly sturdier build (and it was $30 cheaper--go figure)

My coworker is giving me his 2-tiered stand, solving my remaining space issues. Gonna be real sick having all of my equipment at arm's length
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Postby fresh salad » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:36 pm

Is the Proline an A frame?
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Postby Milquetoaster Strudels » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:06 pm

It appears to be the same one you have. I would prefer an A frame to open up the floor space a bit, but it will do for now
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Postby Milquetoaster Strudels » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:21 pm

Honestly all you need to create really good tunes is a sampler and maybe a bunch of plugins if you're feeling frisky
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Postby cud nylon » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:17 pm

whoa they stuck a keyboard and vocoder on the streichfett. been eyeing one for a while and the eugs cosign made the itch stronger. https://waldorfmusic.com/en/stvc
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Postby Milquetoaster Strudels » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:56 am

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Postby Wilderness » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:07 am

they should have put a filter on it
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Postby Eugenics » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:50 am

speaking of that, ive been meaning to check out waldorf's 2-pole filter box that's housed similarly to the rocket synth and the streichfett
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Postby Wicked Willy » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:55 am

The Waldorf filter is pretty good. It’s rather noisy though, so you can’t make anything too hifi with it. That self-oscillation is sweet tho
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Postby Eugenics » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:57 am

the vocoder voicing is kinda wack, but its way cool using using your breathing as sort of that filtered formant giving movement and space throughout the chord changes.
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Postby Eugenics » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:04 am

all the companies need to make a little standalone desktop unit or pedal or something non-eurorack, with their own bespoke filter with nice big control knobs for Freq, Decay, Resonance, Envelope, etc...
like, the EHX guitar microsynth is pretty much based off of the minimoog's filter, it would be cool to have a dave smith curtis filter box, a korg MS-10 filter, Buchla, whatever....
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