father of two wrote:maybe false, but are they called the 'bleachers' because you bleach in the sun while sitting on them?
The "bench for spectators at a sports field" sense (usually bleachers) is attested since 1889, American English; so named because the boards were bleached by the sun.
RIXX wrote:is the film sunset boulevard named that because, besides being a major LA street that runs thru hollywood, it has the name sunset in it ie a sunsetting career?
RIXX wrote:I don't know if this is a don don but the latest episode of Lexicon Valley discussed the fact that subject/object rule for personal pronouns, ie John and I went to the store rather than John and me went to the store, was essentially just made up by someone in the late 1800s and then caught on in classrooms and now is taught as a general rule.
and the host gave a bunch of reasons why the rule doesn't really make sense. maybe you should just listen to the episode though instead of me transcribing them all
joe wrote:RIXX wrote:I don't know if this is a don don but the latest episode of Lexicon Valley discussed the fact that subject/object rule for personal pronouns, ie John and I went to the store rather than John and me went to the store, was essentially just made up by someone in the late 1800s and then caught on in classrooms and now is taught as a general rule.
and the host gave a bunch of reasons why the rule doesn't really make sense. maybe you should just listen to the episode though instead of me transcribing them all
It seems to make sense to me as I wouldn't say "me went to the store"
Unless they used to say that back then
joe wrote:RIXX wrote:I don't know if this is a don don but the latest episode of Lexicon Valley discussed the fact that subject/object rule for personal pronouns, ie John and I went to the store rather than John and me went to the store, was essentially just made up by someone in the late 1800s and then caught on in classrooms and now is taught as a general rule.
and the host gave a bunch of reasons why the rule doesn't really make sense. maybe you should just listen to the episode though instead of me transcribing them all
It seems to make sense to me as I wouldn't say "me went to the store"
Unless they used to say that back then
RIXX wrote:joe wrote:RIXX wrote:I don't know if this is a don don but the latest episode of Lexicon Valley discussed the fact that subject/object rule for personal pronouns, ie John and I went to the store rather than John and me went to the store, was essentially just made up by someone in the late 1800s and then caught on in classrooms and now is taught as a general rule.
and the host gave a bunch of reasons why the rule doesn't really make sense. maybe you should just listen to the episode though instead of me transcribing them all
It seems to make sense to me as I wouldn't say "me went to the store"
Unless they used to say that back then
one of the examples the host used was say you're knocking at someone's door and they ask, "who's there?" you don't say "it is I" you say "it is me" (or the shortened version, just "me") even though me/I is the subject of that sentence.
also he asked why you couldn't switch "John and I went to the store" to "I and John went to the store"
i dunno it's a good podcast/episode, it's part of a larger discussion on the usage of the word "they"
Spooky Jim wrote:joe wrote:RIXX wrote:I don't know if this is a don don but the latest episode of Lexicon Valley discussed the fact that subject/object rule for personal pronouns, ie John and I went to the store rather than John and me went to the store, was essentially just made up by someone in the late 1800s and then caught on in classrooms and now is taught as a general rule.
and the host gave a bunch of reasons why the rule doesn't really make sense. maybe you should just listen to the episode though instead of me transcribing them all
It seems to make sense to me as I wouldn't say "me went to the store"
Unless they used to say that back then
Haven’t you ever heard a caveman talk?
ratbags wrote:you're like a wistful naive idiot version of bill simmons
joe wrote:All grammar is made up, in any case
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RIXX wrote:joe wrote:RIXX wrote:I don't know if this is a don don but the latest episode of Lexicon Valley discussed the fact that subject/object rule for personal pronouns, ie John and I went to the store rather than John and me went to the store, was essentially just made up by someone in the late 1800s and then caught on in classrooms and now is taught as a general rule.
and the host gave a bunch of reasons why the rule doesn't really make sense. maybe you should just listen to the episode though instead of me transcribing them all
It seems to make sense to me as I wouldn't say "me went to the store"
Unless they used to say that back then
one of the examples the host used was say you're knocking at someone's door and they ask, "who's there?" you don't say "it is I" you say "it is me" (or the shortened version, just "me") even though me/I is the subject of that sentence.
grammatron wrote:RIXX wrote:joe wrote:RIXX wrote:I don't know if this is a don don but the latest episode of Lexicon Valley discussed the fact that subject/object rule for personal pronouns, ie John and I went to the store rather than John and me went to the store, was essentially just made up by someone in the late 1800s and then caught on in classrooms and now is taught as a general rule.
and the host gave a bunch of reasons why the rule doesn't really make sense. maybe you should just listen to the episode though instead of me transcribing them all
It seems to make sense to me as I wouldn't say "me went to the store"
Unless they used to say that back then
one of the examples the host used was say you're knocking at someone's door and they ask, "who's there?" you don't say "it is I" you say "it is me" (or the shortened version, just "me") even though me/I is the subject of that sentence.
No it isn't. In the sentence "It is me," 'It' is the subject.
The Unblinking Eye wrote:grammatron wrote:RIXX wrote:joe wrote:RIXX wrote:I don't know if this is a don don but the latest episode of Lexicon Valley discussed the fact that subject/object rule for personal pronouns, ie John and I went to the store rather than John and me went to the store, was essentially just made up by someone in the late 1800s and then caught on in classrooms and now is taught as a general rule.
and the host gave a bunch of reasons why the rule doesn't really make sense. maybe you should just listen to the episode though instead of me transcribing them all
It seems to make sense to me as I wouldn't say "me went to the store"
Unless they used to say that back then
one of the examples the host used was say you're knocking at someone's door and they ask, "who's there?" you don't say "it is I" you say "it is me" (or the shortened version, just "me") even though me/I is the subject of that sentence.
No it isn't. In the sentence "It is me," 'It' is the subject.
And you should say "It is I" since "I" is the predicate nominative.
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