a perfect circle - mer de noms (2000)

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Postby Rainbow Battle Kid » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:49 am

yeahh that was always my main Power Ballad jam on MDN over 3 Libras
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Postby Hoxha » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:05 am

The two parts of this song don't fit well together at all.
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Postby futurist » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:08 am

not feeling this but always down to revisit old shit
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Postby antoine » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:32 am

lostintheair wrote:bruhs, 13th step is fucking great. like id probably have to really think long and hard to determine which is ultimately.

MDN got the classic trax, but the production is way better on 13th step. way more dynamic. not to mention it was made by an actual band, as opposed to billy on everything but drums with maynard added after the fact. i mean seriously, look no further than the opening song:



yeah this song is dope. love when the distorted part comes in.
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Postby blues » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:31 am

god it's weird seeing james iha in 2017

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Postby antoine » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:59 pm

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this is...not good. too alt-bro radio rock. maynard's voice sounds bad. transiberian orchestra guitar leads. just all of their worst tendencies and none of the things that were good about the band. disappointing.
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Postby light rail coyote » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:06 pm

APC kind of seems like a band that had a short period of time for relevancy and it expired right after 13th step came out.

to me, the appeal of those albums is that they somehow managed to take a lot of aesthetic signifiers of that era in mainstream rock music, an era that was a true low point for mainstream rock music, and actually make it work somehow.

without that context it doesn't really work and they should have left well enough alone.

gonna get ripped and listen to mer de noms on my way home from work tho
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Postby antoine » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:13 pm

light rail coyote wrote:APC kind of seems like a band that had a short period of time for relevancy and it expired right after 13th step came out.

to me, the appeal of those albums is that they somehow managed to take a lot of aesthetic signifiers of that era in mainstream rock music, an era that was a true low point for mainstream rock music, and actually make it work somehow.

without that context it doesn't really work and they should have left well enough alone.

gonna get ripped and listen to mer de noms on my way home from work tho

yeah. and that's kind of the point to me. they were a big dramatic alt-rock band that could smuggle in atmosphere and cure-esque sensitivity and sweeping emotion, even subtlety into the big tent rock format. like even that song "the package" lostintheair posted shows a lot of restraint in its composition and then when the big distorted guitar part comes in it hits super hard and in a convincing way. it's good songwriting.

but just like, i don't know what they're fucking trying to do with that new song other than just add another faux-tender listless rock song to a radio playlist i guess. i guess they want to be theory of a deadman now or whatever. maybe there'll be a couple good tracks on the album but not holding out much hope now.
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Postby light rail coyote » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:15 pm

yeah, exactly. these are both albums that i used to listen to when i'd go for long walks at night because the vibe just fit and there was a real sense of atmosphere.

this doesn't have a vibe.
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Postby marble » Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:56 am

antoine wrote:
lostintheair wrote:

this is...not good. too alt-bro radio rock. maynard's voice sounds bad. transiberian orchestra guitar leads. just all of their worst tendencies and none of the things that were good about the band. disappointing.

i agree

the most jarring thing about this track, other than the horrible lyrics, is the guitar-center bro lead guitar. the weird muted glock (xylophone?) in the first break is kind of good, with the horns (?) and everything. then it goes into that bad syncopated riff and falls apart. hints of something good but mostly bad. anyway i'm listening to mer de noms now

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Postby hideaki anno's cool world » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:04 am

thread made me listen to sunny day real estate

and now im gonna listen to seam

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Postby antoine » Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:07 am

The "rocking" riffy part sounds like Mars Volta with Cedric singing down an octave and not trying at all plus like Evanescence or something. Blech.
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Postby blog stat » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:12 pm

PMA ALL DAY
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Postby Plainsong » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:31 am

Mer de noms is a great record. It's easily just as good as most of Tool's discography.
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Postby oh! it's max! » Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:40 pm

seriously.
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Postby Honk For Dracula » Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:53 pm

is this good
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Postby ecto » Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:13 pm

it sounds like something a band opening for apc 15 years ago would play
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Postby blog stat » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:17 am

this sucks

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Postby blog stat » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:22 am

maynards quitting music for mma
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Postby Honk For Dracula » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:02 pm



new album out 4/20

all of these songs are bad
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Postby antoine » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:28 pm

Why is he singing like dave gahan
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Postby antoine » Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:53 pm

Gonna listen to this. The first song is nice. Jesus that album cover tho.
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Postby antoine » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:27 pm

Yeah this is a plodding mess
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Postby Swelling Itching Brain » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:58 am

antoine wrote:Why is he singing like dave gahan

I love dave gahan but this made me lol hard


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Postby Jeremy » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:19 am

I haven't heard any of this new stuff but I think it's safe to say this is still the only band that's good.
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Postby antoine » Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:55 am

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antoine wrote:Why is he singing like dave gahan

I love dave gahan but this made me lol hard


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judith isn't one of my fav songs from that album but the video rules. mer de noms is so fing good. the original lineup of this band was amazing. love troy vl and paz on bass. josh freese is a sickass drummer. the fill at 2:00 in this clip is :o 8-) .

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Postby Plainsong » Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:01 am

The orignal lineup was the best. These two performances in particular are awesome.

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Postby Rainbow Battle Kid » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:50 pm

man I hadn't listened to Thirteenth Step in years and I'm digging it more than I remembered.
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