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Postby cooly » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:04 pm

fwiw I have scalebane duskbreaker drakonid primordial twilight alex and netherspite in there and activating it isn’t usually a problem. I’m usually praying to draw raza and Anduin and not praying to draw dragons.
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Postby broodstar » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:51 pm

i was playing the dragon package but i realized besides duskbreaker on 4, you really don't want to draw any of the 4-5 dragons you run. it especially hurt in the mirror, making you fall like 6-10 cards behind in cycle, so i cut it and am doing noticeably better

you especially shouldn't be running scalebane in razakus

kolento seems to have figured out a very good controllock build with a doomguard/cube/umbra combo for an otk, which gives it an otk against priest and massive taunt walls against aggro. deck gives me a headache.
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Postby cooly » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:34 pm

that all makes sense to me. I guess my koft list with a psychic scream jammed in would probably beat my current list.

I saw a post about that warlock list and it looks fun. I’m gonna wait for the dust to settle because I can only afford a couple big cards without putting money into the game, which I don’t wanna do. I have guldan and like slower warlock decks so I’ll probably make whatever version is the one that owns in a week or 2

I crafted the dumb rogue weapon to try that miracle deck a few days ago and I just got demolished by everything. I wish shinyfinder were a 1 mana 2-1 so I could run it in a prince list with the weapon buff pirates or something. Last night I watched dog play a version that looked better than mine with cold lights and valeera so you can sort of mill and always have a weapon equipped + 1 In your deck but it seemed more like a meme deck and I don’t wanna craft Valeera
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Postby broodstar » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:50 am

i don't think miracle's even close to good

cyantific said that people were playing it at the start, but aside from a couple people hitting rank 1 legend, i saw exactly 0 miracles on day 2.

it is doing better than tempo rogue at legend, but i think that's just because streamers have fun playing miracle, not that it's a particularly good deck or has a niche. and tempo rogue sucks.

hsreplay and vicious syndicate both point towards the only real decks being paladin and priest, so...............
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Postby internetfriend » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:41 am

strider miracle is super super fun. some of the most fun i’ve had with this game
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Postby broodstar » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:44 pm

i can only have so much fun losing to raza5+anduin8 or corridor creepers. usually such fun lasts me like 3 games

im failing more dungeon runs again. no jades offered in my shaman run 3x. maybe trump's a god
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Postby cyantific » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:45 pm

yeah, Miracle Rogue always seems to start off popular but dies off when more boardcentric decks start to work. I feel like Miracle Rogue has a tough time vs Paladin, Tempo Rogue, Zoo Lock, + the Hunter Spellstone so it has fallen off. It still is a lot of fun to play though. Dog just got Rank 1 playing a Kingsbane Mill Rogue deck so that might be a cool deck to check out.

Corridor Creepers being in almost every deck is a pretty big bummer. I feel like it isn't like Bonemare since you can play around Bonemare on Turn 6/7 by clearing the board but with Creeper there really isn't any counterplay. Hoping to see a nerf to it by changing the text to say only FRIENDLY minions that have died.

Trump, and a lot of other streamers, created dozens of accounts to try get the perfect dungeon run completed. So I think if you brute force it enough you'll get a run with good RNG. I'm still having some fun with dungeon runs when cool moments like me stealing the completed Warlock quest from a boss in a deck with 2 Captured Flags (+1/+1) buffs.
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Postby cooly » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:14 pm

yeah the thing is it's really not fun when my opponent is smashing my face either with raza blasts or silver hands and my hand is prep prep coin deadly poison

there's definitely a dungeon run metagame strategy but i'm not sure it's that worth learning. i got the cardback and i play it every once in a while because i want to see the treasure room or get the weapon from combining the parts but yea
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Postby broodstar » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:59 pm

i think i'm well-attuned to what the 'meta' is, it's just rng sometimes

pala/druid are easiest. pala can get +1/+1 or justicar's ring and cheese off that. druid/shaman/rogue are all pretty much pray for jades, and if not, cthun with double battlecry. but no matter what deck you have, you end up losing to candlebeard or evolve dude or lava-filled chamber or treasure room or azari or whatever just off a bad deck/draw
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Postby internetfriend » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:01 pm

cooly wrote:yeah the thing is it's really not fun when my opponent is smashing my face either with raza blasts or silver hands and my hand is prep prep coin deadly poison

there's definitely a dungeon run metagame strategy but i'm not sure it's that worth learning. i got the cardback and i play it every once in a while because i want to see the treasure room or get the weapon from combining the parts but yea

for what it’s worth i don’t include the kingsbane package in my very fun miracle rogue and don’t think it would be a good idea to do so
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Postby internetfriend » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:02 pm

also never had a hand nearly that dead. in part because no kingsbane package, in part because elven minstrel helps a looot i think
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Postby broodstar » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:17 pm

stuck a harrison in razakus and full mull for harrison+potion/silence against cubelock and i'm winning every game again
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Postby can » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:22 pm

broodstar wrote:stuck a harrison in razakus and full mull for harrison+potion/silence against cubelock and i'm winning every game again


haven't played in forever but still watch as an addict and was wondering why legend players weren't running harrison against this. seem to be enough weapon decks that it's a worthy tech?
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Postby broodstar » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:23 pm

harrisoning shitty paladin or rogue weapons is bad. you really only want it against skull of the menari, but if that's the only thing that saves that matchup then i'm using it

some 30% of players are using harrison anyway
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Postby cooly » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:34 am

internetfriend wrote:also never had a hand nearly that dead. in part because no kingsbane package, in part because elven minstrel helps a looot i think

Yea I could see it being smoother without the weapon package because it leaves you deadly poison and weapon lifesteal as cards you really don’t want to play unless kingsbane is up
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Postby Riverchrist » Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:25 am

This video is against really dumb opponents but the deck is still classic HS "play stuff on curve and win":

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Postby cooly » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:00 pm

i didn't wanna make a new thread but i wanna ask internet strange if he saw the dr disrespect news. i remember IS posting about how he had positive feelings towards that guy even though he doesn't watch him, and i felt kinda similarly. made me feel a little sad tho i don't watch the guy.
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Postby cyantific » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:51 pm

Riverchrist wrote:This video is against really dumb opponents but the deck is still classic HS "play stuff on curve and win":



Xixo brought this deck to SeatStory Cup so I guess its a lot better than I expected it to be. One of the commentators was saying that if Grand Archivist is played and there is no enemy minion on the board, it will play Free from Amber instead of Mind Control every time.

cooly wrote:i didn't wanna make a new thread but i wanna ask internet strange if he saw the dr disrespect news. i remember IS posting about how he had positive feelings towards that guy even though he doesn't watch him, and i felt kinda similarly. made me feel a little sad tho i don't watch the guy.


It's been talked about a bit here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=106698&start=1950 in case you didn't see
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Postby broodstar » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:11 pm

you can make any deck work with spiteful summoner + big spell. it's sorta the barnes+ysharj equivalent of aggro highrolling, except it's a lot more consistent and dumb tempo

a lot of ppl started playing the mill kingsbane deck but it's also got an aggregated 40% winrate so
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Postby broodstar » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:15 pm

im giving up on the dungeon run dream

priest/mage/warrior just feel so miserable. i wish i could just always get a double battlecry +1/+1 jade/cthun deck and not run into the darkness. i've never ever had 5 cost giants either

i have had fun taking dumb minions with amulet of domination though, like an amara you don't need to complete the quest for, shadowcasters, and the ixlid spore

there should be a streamed dungeon run event because watching amaz's dream get ruined by his wish rolling majordomo was the highlight of my hs week
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Postby terrific bedwetter » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:35 pm

I keep getting dummied as warlock in the dungeon run :( last class I need to win as...
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Postby broodstar » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:38 pm

dear god

my friend wanted me to hit legend for him so i logged on and jammed aggro pally and went 17-0 from rank 5 before finally losing a game
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Postby cyantific » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:39 pm

what list were you running?
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Postby broodstar » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:48 pm

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edit: ive lost four times now

i couldve been a reddit superstar
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Postby cyantific » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:11 pm

nice, looks like a good deck. i'm missing Tarim, Leeroy and one Call to Arms so won't be able to try it out.
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Postby broodstar » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:14 pm

this deck should theoretically autolose to warlock but i think i'm just playing bad players or i'm just drawing call to arms+creeper every game

also meme tournaments are my fave so here's senf rapping to man's not hot: https://clips.twitch.tv/AttractiveFitPepperRickroll
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Postby Riverchrist » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:57 am

I beat the last dungeon run with Mage against the deck-milling demon. He didn't mill my double Pyros, so I had 10/10s to barely get the damage through. Also Reno'd back to 100 health.

I win all my Murloc Pally games except when I get Duskbreaker'd. Which is pretty often!

Oh well, back to Wild Greedlock.
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Postby cooly » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:00 pm

i'm glad people took jailor out of aggro paladin finally. that card was bad
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Postby broodstar » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:52 am

does anyone care if i say i peep peter svidler chilling in twitch chats a bunch
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Postby broodstar » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:30 pm

dude's a memer

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